Also, its hard to know how much preprogramming Adam and Eve may have had when they were created and how much they needed to learn. He gives them clothes in Verse 21 because the evil deed, of eating from . However, God could have manifested himself as a human being, but this would not be the glorious spirit being that he actually is. Genesis 3:8, NLT: When the cool evening breezes were blowing, the man and his wife heard the LORD God walking about in the garden. The Bible likens our righteousness to filthy rags. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. Both Adam and Eve, and all humans today, were made in God's image (Genesis 1:26-27; 5:1). I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. Psalm 104:3. Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). I think youve understood exactly what I was seeking to accomplish. In fact, earlier this week during a Q&A session, one of the guests asked about Adam walking with God in the garden. Theologians have long wrestled with the very concept of being made in Gods image. How cool would that be! . 00:00. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. Hi Robert, Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. The strong wind or breezy alternative is reflected in the notes of many English Bibles, such as the NASB, NET, and ESV, and it is even the translation of the HCSB. Yes, Adam and Eve were sinless, but this doesnt mean that Gods physical presence needed to be right where they were. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. Adam and Eve enjoyed a relationship with God, and with each other, that was unhindered by the disruptive power of sin. Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, You walked with us every day. The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. At the same time, Adam understood what God meant when He spoke to him, so there clearly was some preprogramming that occurred when God created him. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. And 2 kids who wont hear it that way from Dad. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. If you want to believe they did, thats totally fine with me. The old has . This month we will look at Bible texts from Genesis to Revelation to reflect on what it means to walk with God. No? This is why Christians generally believe that all human life is precious. The Hebrew verb, halak, is translated as "walking" in this passage. Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. Thats correct, and I write about that in my book, Fallen. I hope this helps. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. Adam and Eve. Who is this that would kill him? For Adam to know that the sound he heard was the sound of God, he must have heard it before. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. when they heard God they hid from Him. Conclusion. You read that correctly, the Bible never states that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Im glad to know that what you are able to recognize what I hope to accomplish whenever I respond to people. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. They and their children would experience sickness, pain, and physical death. Thanks for your thoughts. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. And to the hill of frankincense. When the shadows flee away, I will go my way to the mountain of myrrh. Because we are made in Gods image, we are called to image God. What does it mean for God to walk with them? But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there. 00:00. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. Remember that the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost with a rushing mighty wind (Acts 2:2). Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. Could Adam and Eve have actually taken walks with God in the Garden? I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. I think there are two reasons why it seems best to conclude that God had walked in the garden before: 1. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? Let me shine light on tis section you have written: If you will count the number of people listed as being created, you will find Adam #1, Eve #2 then Cain #3 and Able #4. so thats a total of four people listed as being on the Earth. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? However, most people inevitably mention them walking in the cool of the day, so they arent thinking of it in the figurative sense. Well done! Thank you and God bless you! They hear a sound. Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? Furthermore, nothing in John 1 states that Jesus walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden, surrounded by fruit trees and beautiful things. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. In the later OT the Temple was the place of God's special presence where he made himself known and felt to Israel. 21? First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. September 13, 2019. While its true they could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel, they also could have been any age from very young up to 120+. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). I have no doubt that they heard an audible voice when God asked, Where are you? or when He asked who told them that they were naked. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. Genesis 3:8 KJV. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. 4. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. Privacy Policy. John teaches that Christ the second person of the Godhead is the Creator "All things came into being through Him, and . Adam (perhaps Eve too) was familiar with Gods presence. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. We walk with the voice of God as well. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. All the details of exactly how god walked with them are so plain to see that blind Freddy can see it. Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . One has still After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. But there is so much more to the story. The Bible doesnt say that Cains wife was from Nod. The only time it mentions the voice and walking (if those are the right translations) is when Adam and Eve were hiding from God. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. Its not hard at all to see that Adams and Eves sins broke the right standing they had with God. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. God communicated many things to Adam. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. thank you so much. God asks them if they had eaten from the tree, but He already knows the answer. . Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. We do see God speaking to both of them in Genesis 1:2830 when He blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and told them to eat vegetation. You could be hiding with the Lord standing (figuratively speaking)right in front of them, and they wouldnt know. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Thanks for your comments. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". To find out why God made you we have to look in the Bible. Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". It would be far better to use a supporting argument that has a strong biblical basis. Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. I am simply trying to point people back to Scripture as Ive done in many other posts in my Misused Verses series. The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. So if this is accurate, then what Adam heard was the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, as indicated in the same translations mentioned above. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. Its not even hard to imagine that Adam and Eve did walk with God prior to the fall. I also see or notice (for first time) that the description occurred after the fall & is only described once. And then. is not an accurate analogy. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). It also seems to assume that they were in the garden for quite a while when they almost certainly were not there for long at all. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. He was given the title of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" because he knew good and evil. But God knew they had eaten the forbidden fruit. Jesus is Lord God, He is the Son of God. Hi Robert, Later that day, God was walking in the Garden of Eden. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. They were not merely spiritual beings at that point. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. They got to take walks with him, check out the animals, enjoy the beau I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. "Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away, Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle. In spite of being familiar with scripture, I never noticed that it doesnt exactly say this. What if Adam and Eve were not human as we are today. Mentions of Eden are also made in the Bible elsewhere in Genesis, in Isaiah 51:3, Ezekiel 36:35, and Joel 2:3; Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 47 use paradisical imagery without naming Eden. In fact, nearly as soon as the Lord have man the woman they went together directly to the forbidden tree (as soon as God turned aside to rest from all the work of His creation) they were tempted, took the fruit and ate it. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. Thanks for the kind response. I believe whenever we read the words The Word of the Lord came to such and such prophet, that means Jesus (who is the Word of God)literally came to that individual as Jesus appeared to John on the Island of Patmos. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. Once God addresses him, then Adam could say, I heard the sound of You in the garden (Gen. 2:10, ESV). Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. I love my time with Him and when Im not with Him I want to do the right thing by Him, unlike Adam and Eve! I plan to search through it much more. The reasoning for this conclusion may make more sense in the next post on Cain and Abel. 5 Bible Verses about God Walking. The episode of God walking in the Garden of Eden is one of these instances. I think for me it comes from the song In the Garden, it is a peaceful way to think God is walking with us. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But, like other things, there is truly not a single word to directly support the notion that Adam walked with God in the cool of the day. If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? Since they were both born in Genesis 4 (after the expulsion from the Garden), they didnt necessarily have to be 120+ by the year Seth was born. IMV they were walking in the IMAGE for which God created them with the FREE WILL to CHOOSE. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). 8 Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. I am so happy to find your website. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. WHY? God has, in certain instances, revealed Himself in bodily form. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. How beautifully expressive are these words of the familiar and condescending manner in which He had hitherto held intercourse with the first pair. When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). But that isnt the point of what I wrote. Therefore while at yet there was no temptation, walking with God was natural. God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Here is just one example about working the land 26:1 make no idols. If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. Is it so hard to see that broke the fall in a righteous or right standing with God, the first family would run hard to God. Hi Tim you stated; How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? Genesis 2 describes Adam and Eve's first homethe Garden of Eden. Easy, no relevance to the story. Fifth, if someone doesn't like the idea that God knew they would be . So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. Ive added that to the article now to help clarify that point. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. God cannot look upon sin ( Habakkuk 1:13) and that's why He told Moses no one can see His face and live ( Exodus 33:20 ). They forgot about God. He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. I have a problem with telling people that the Bible says they did this. "Until the cool of the day. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . The unborn child, the mentally handicapped, the elderly, and even our worst enemiesall are made in the image of God. And in Genesis 3:10 Adam heard that familiar sound (be it foot steps, voice, wind or otherwise) & hid. (Vs. 14) Did this wind also clothe Adam and Eve with skins from an animal that had to be killed? Just like when we will be fully glorified in the new age, we shall see God, because we shall be sinless then; Adam couldnt have hid himself from wind alone, there must be an accompanied physical presence that he knew about; When you follow the account of Genesis at that material time, its hard to think that God was just coming through the medium of wind, then why did he create man in the first place, if at all he didnt want the man to see him? God told them to be fruitful and multiply. 1. Josh 5:13-15 - the commander of the LORD's army (compare Rev 19:9, 10) Dan 3:25 - the "Son of God" in the fiery furnace. . Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. Hi Warren, You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. . Because at this time there are only three people left from the list. As I mentioned in my conclusion, God certainly could have taken taken strolls with Adam and Eve, but the Bible does not directly teach this, and I have my doubts about it. Why werent they mentioned? If you want to try to build a case for the possibility, thats fine with me too. The activity of God in 2:18-22 give the impression of prior occasions of God walking in the garden. He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? The difficulties of translation, plus inevitable translator bias, can complicate getting a true understanding. So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. Tim> However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.<<<<. Some scholars, such as J.J. Niehaus, have argued that the phrase translated as the cool of the day is better understood as referring a strong wind. If God was in spirit form hiding would make no sense, how can you hide from someone you cant see? Hi Daniel, Hi Nucc, However, the walk in these passages should probably be understood in a figurative sense. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. Also, Adam didnt necessarily say that he heard Gods voice (some Bibles translate it that way), but it could just as accurately be translated as your sound in the garden. In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! Whats different, and merits the commentary, is not that God has for the first time come to walk in the Garden, but that for the first time his walking in the Garden is responded to in fear and hiding, due to sin. But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. I happened on this post because the thought came to my mind that God only walked with Adam, not EveI do not know why I had the thought, and I had not checked Gods Holy Word on the issue, but I read your article which partly validated my thought in an unexpected way. The same two words are translated elsewhere . With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. Adam and Eve as well as other people born during the no-sin era. Adam and Eve's Separation from God . Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). But I am very clear in the post that I have no problem with the notion that they might have walked with Him. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. That would be what we today would consider a lifetime of experiencing Gods faithfulness and guidance, only to throw it away in a single day! Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. I just want to offer a thought about Cain and Abels ages. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . When I was young I remember the most favorites of things I would get for Christmas. Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. 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